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The name Bob Fertig sounds familiar. Is he the same guy who dropped the drunk driving bomb just before the 2000 election? I think I need to do some searching... Posted by: Steverino at February 10, 2004 11:57 AM |
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Okay, did a Google search on the name "Bob Fertig". A person of that name was quoted in connection with an anti-Bush rally in July, 2001. It's probably the same guy, but there's not much else relevant. The fact that Fertig released the info now, as opposed to either the 2000 election or this coming October, tells me that it tends to exonerate Bush. And the Bush people apparently have gotten the same records from the same source. Why didn't the Bush Admin have the records before? Well, the Texas Air National Guards may have given them the impression that the records didn't exist, and it wasn't a big deal until recently, so the Admin probably wasn't searching too hard for the records. I'm hoping we're seeing the end of this red herring. A lot of time, keystrokes, and emotions have been poured into this (apparently innocuous) issue. Posted by: Steverino at February 10, 2004 12:35 PM |
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Sorry, folks, but this won't be the end of it. Via NRO's "The Corner": The White House this afternoon released proof of Bush's national guard service. A reader makes a good observation: Posted by: bob at February 10, 2004 03:33 PM |
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McQ - sorry I had to get technical over there, but I was trying to educate people who have: 1. Not the vaguest idea how the system works, with 2. Not the slightest urge to learn, and who have 3. A vested interest in NOT finding out anything that might upset their worldview. 'Bush lied, people died.' 'Bush was AWOL, Kerry's a hero.' 'Even though there's records, they aren't proof because nobody remembers him.' Their life is black and white, circumscribed by the sound bytes that circulate in their heads. What's permitted and encouraged for a Dem is never allowable or condoned in a Repub. And I for one am getting damn sick of it. I spent 13 years in the same Reserve unit. Some people I knew by name. Others came and went - some I never saw because they did alternate drill weekends, inprocessing and outprocessing during the week. I don't remember the folks who I took care of in '89 unless I had a good reason to - there was a VERY good looking Sgt (who unfortunately had the brains of a rock) who I remember because of the way she looked in her uniform - but I sure couldn't name everyone in the squadron, I don't think I even MET everyone in the squadron, and I'm pretty sure if asked a lot of them won't be able to remember me or my name except as that white guy in the Orderly room who knew about computers.. But anyway, just wanted to thank you for noticing that I WAS trying to educate these guys - who seem strikingly resistant to ANYTHING that's not what they want to hear! J. Posted by: JLawson at February 10, 2004 05:49 PM |
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J. I appreciate you getting technical. It gives those who continue to spout their nonsense less and less ground to claim as their own. And I thought you did a marvelous job explaining it. It was interesting that you came to the same conclusion I did when I sat down and looked at the records. Its all there. Its a no-brainer. There is no foundation to any of these charges. Yet, as you point out, that is NOT what these people want to hear. And compound that with their absolute ignorance of the system and you can see how vast conspiracy theories with no basis in fact manage to get off the ground and wobble their way around the world. Posted by: McQ at February 10, 2004 06:02 PM |
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JLawson, Posted by: Steverino at February 10, 2004 09:52 PM |
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What this whole argument dances around but never quite comes right out and says is: 1) Bush was a coward because he avoided Vietnam by going into the Guard. 2) Bush was a hypocrite who personally refused to fight, but now wants others to fight HIS war. This is the real agenda of keeping the story alive. The point is to provide a contrast to Kerry. The counter narrative is: 1) Kerry was a brave a decorated soldier who, despite his personal reservations about the war, bravely served, was wounded and decorated for valor. 2) Kerry was not a hypocrite. He served, and then seeing first hand how evil the war was, came home and became a major player in the anti-war movement, proving that he is a man of character. So whether or not Bush was actually AWOl is really immaterial. The point is to keep the story alive in order to provide the contrast between the cowardly hypocritical Bush, and the valiant principled Kerry. Whether this strategy will work in the general electiion is rather dubious; but it is rather an obviously good strategy for convincing Democrats that Kerry is the most likely candidate to beat Bush. The Democrats have correctly identified their biggest weakness, and Bush's biggest strength as the War on Terror. This is their attempt to overcome their defiences. We'll see if it plays well in December, or whether this whole flap just acts as a boost to get Kerry the nomination. Posted by: Scott Harris at February 11, 2004 10:48 PM |
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REtype This is their attempt to overcome their deficiencies. We'll see if it plays well in November, or whether this whole flap just acts as a boost to get Kerry the nomination. Posted by: Scott Harris at February 11, 2004 10:53 PM |
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