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Unfortunately Kerry is a beacon to many people... people STILL fighting against the Vietnam war, for whom September 11th either never happened or was something we deserved. Posted by: Chrees at February 13, 2004 12:05 PM |
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Thanks for the post and the service. Posted by: Chris Arabia at February 13, 2004 12:10 PM |
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Straining at gnats while contemplating the camel ... I have heard it asserted that the projectiles Kerry hurled over the White House wall were his RIBBONS, not the medals themselves. For the non-military, a "ribbon" is not the tag of cloth from which the medallion dangles. (The image of throwing a bit of cloth is comical ... it wouldn't go very far!) But the color and pattern of that tag define the color and pattern of the ribbon. The ribbon is a cloth covered, bar shaped decoration which slides over a brass strip, which strip is then pinned to the uniform over the pocket. You'll see senior officers with an array of ribbons, three across and sometimes as many as five rows stacked atop one another. The ones on the bottom row are minor awards, "I was there" ribbons. Top row are the ones that count, commendations, stars, thst sort of thing. Kerry's rows would include at least a purple heart with a couple of clusters, probably a navy commendation, a good conduct, a vietnam service award, and his silver star. At least two rows of Anyhow, the point is that you can walk in and buy more ribbons, anytime you want. A person might want several sets for several uniforms, after all; or one set for the "I Love Me" wall in the office and another for the uniform. The metal medals are not so easily replaced. Anyhow, as I say, it makes a gnat's spit worth of difference to ME. But the Mjolnar-like quality of Kerry's medals ("He threw them over the WH wall. But there they are again, right back on his own OFFICE wall! Amazing!") may have resulted in the misimpression among the non-military press that he had "throw someone eles's medals away". Either the borrowed medal, or the ribbon hypothesis, could be true. I don't know. But if there is a more charitable and reasonable explanation of events it might be appropriate to at least consider the possibility. Now, if Kerry is on record somewhere as agreeing that he pitched a buddy's medals, I take it all back.
Posted by: Pouncer at February 13, 2004 12:52 PM |
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The symbolism contained in the act is what matters to me. In 1971 he was ASHAMED to have them, so much so he threw them back. Now he's PROUD to have them, so much so, they hang prominantly in his Senate office. He's a moral coward ... period. Posted by: McQ at February 13, 2004 01:03 PM |
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Pounder ... check this out.
Posted by: McQ at February 13, 2004 06:05 PM |
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Hey Pouncer, You picked up on the medals. So the winter soldier thing didn't get a rise out of you. Interesting sense of perspective you have. Posted by: capt joe at February 13, 2004 11:33 PM |
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I think that anyone who would get as many medals for what he did in 3 months of service is either superman, or a liar and a fake. Either way, a scratch that doesn't require a trip to the TMC or a least a visit to an aid station is hardly Purple Heart stuff. I grew up in the 60's, entered service in '72 and I still serve, having just returned from the HOA (Africa) in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. I personally saw victims of accidents resulting from mistakes other branches made against us. We didn't think about medals then. These things are part of war. They happen. I have scars from various things that happened to me, but I would be embarrassed if someone put me in for a Purple Heart. And, I damn sure wouldn't have put myself in for it!! Today, I have a son, fighting in Fallujah. I know he is doing his duty. Why? Because he believes in what he is doing. He believes it is the right thing to do. If the rest of America would think about it, like Pat Tillman did, they would know that there is a time to put your personal agenda's aside along with your petty differences, and strike up to the plate to perform a higher function of humanity. The hypocrisy in this country is going to be our downfall and a presidential candidate who is the definition of it cannot be supported by me. John Kerry, you will reap what you have sown. Posted by: wolf1006 at April 28, 2004 09:52 PM |
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