May 03, 2004

UK's Iraqi Prisoner Abuse Pics Fake?
Posted by McQ

An interesting development:

Doubts are growing over the authenticity of photographs that allegedly show British troops mistreating an Iraqi prisoner.

Some British military officials have cast doubt on the pictures -- first published in the Daily Mirror newspaper -- saying the clothing and equipment pictured is not currently troop issue.

But military and photographic experts have pointed out a series of inaccuracies and inconsistencies, suggesting the pictures were fakes.

The experts say the SA80 rifle shown in the images was not issued to British soldiers currently serving in Iraq.

They also say the alleged captive's shirt depicts the pre-1988 Iraqi flag and is too clean to be that old.

And the location of the photos suggest the inside of a Bedford truck -- but experts say those vehicles are not being used by British forces in southern Iraq.

Unfortunately, there's no chance those involving American MPs are fake.

UPDATE: To anybody looking for more information about the Iraqi prisoner abuse situation, we're covering it in great detail....including this summary of the Taguba report. Look around and bookmark the blog if you find it valuable.

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i wood like to say that i do not approve of any prisoner abuse. i say everybody is making comments on 20% information. war sucks and i dont think dems or repubs want to hurt anyone, though are views are different i think as americans we dont want to hurt any body for the worst part, although we are different i think every one likes to live at least as well as we live in america, although i am not rich, i dont suufer and i think the rest of the world should aleast have that right, even though is not written nowhere if i am wrong please forgive me. but donot let the rest world suffer, just because we at least have right to make choices get rid of the bad apples and try to do the best what ever your party is because that is the american way, even though ways are different are rights to the freedoom to do the things we want should be the same please exsuse my grammer cabage195@yahoo.com

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Posted by: dth at May 9, 2004 01:49 PM

"i think as americans we dont want to hurt any body"

you did thought!

As for the rest of what you said, I can't understand a sh*t


I would like to add and say to may Americans who are happy with what the stupid govern. doing; you are just as sick and as empty minded as those who did such crimes. The one needs help is you people... you really need help because you are sick in the head, honestly!

Posted by: nature guy at May 10, 2004 03:58 AM


_Not droped to throw bad light on the current millitary action in Iraq. But, to shift public focus on an issue that the US can resolve with success, unlike the "cancer" growing on our should-be-focus. This also adds fuel to the inferno of Arabias discontent with us and the recoil will be like nothing we have seen yet. The photo's will become good-$-news for defense contractors with a foot in the revolving door. I reckon Rummy(70=retirement) will take the shoe on this issue and we will solve and forget about these snapshots just before something else happens, making or breaking the 2k4 election. I'll also bet we dont see these acused on live-TV, ever. Something very BIG must be going down for our Gov't intel. (or the Mossad) to come up with such awfull News for us to be entertained with. Yes, sick news sells and grabs our attention like none other. When we see awfull news we know we wouldn't commit, we begin to feel better about ourselves (Heroin of the Republic). We loose focus from the real issue of WHY ARE IN IRAQ! By the way, Osama Bin Laden vids all seem fake to me, just a gut feeling. The Mass Media is being duped by someone pushing fabricated stories, clogging the Truth from spreading. Imagine this, you are seated in a room and in walks a 5'10" busty and sexed out burnette gal smiling at you and wearing absoulte nothing, I know I wouldn't see another damn thing to walk into the room untill she left the room. "ya gotta se it before ya can believe it."_


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Posted by: EKAF SCIP at May 11, 2004 01:14 AM

May God's curse be on these bastard americans & british troops. They have no moral edifice to stand on & sermon us on human right violations. They should fulfill their lusty desires on their own bitches.

Posted by: Imran at May 11, 2004 04:07 AM

First off I think the pictures were wrong. Having said that once again our Traitorous Liberal American hating media are driving this. These pukes are part of the reason America gets embarassed militarily. We have to use soma unsavory methods against an enemy who means to destroy us. Anyone who thinks our CIA and Military can do their job by playing fair and being kind are fools living in a fools paradise.These same assholes don't seem to care how many of our GIs are killed by these inhuman terrorists. Britain at one time knew how to play the intrigue game. Our Liberal politicians and media are the ENEMY!We need more Pattons, Andy Jacksons and Teddy Roosevelts and Less Ted Kennedys( that Kindly Massachusetts murderer).

Posted by: Larry Wren at May 11, 2004 07:41 AM

We, as high school students, think that this deliberate abuse of Iraqi prisioners is morally wrong. Furthermore, this will only lead to more hatred and conflicts with the USA. Americans should stand against this act of immaturity and insolence, and yes, punish the arrogant soldiers for their indolent acts of injustice.

Posted by: Jared & Kara at May 12, 2004 11:56 AM

Look our Nation the United States of America has not been innocent... infact ever since before WW2 we have had signifigant blood on our hands, in this respect the blood of innocents... When we began to occupy many of the Pacific Isles we often would dispose of the indiginous people in much the same way that Hitler did. German and Japanese troops alike were somtimes killed in inhumane ways such as my how me great uncle once accounted. According to him he was told ot back a gasoline truck up to a group of prisoners, they were doused and set aflame. Besides numerous personal accounts there is also historical evidence such as the bombing of Dresden which was a small city in the German Alps wich possesed no military or industrial importance and did not shorten the length of the war. No military personel were based or garrissioned... most men were gone off to war... none the less our bombers killed 30,000 women and children... this was no accident either. Not only does that but the famous dropping of the first atomics bombs was also a hideous act, the bombs were not ment ot destroy factories or bases... but civilian lives forcing the Japanese to surrender. Though some thing may be necessary though immoral i believe the abuse of prisoner is well none the less justified in any case. That doesnt meen it was right. Though it may sound contradictory... just think about what the bastards have done to our prisoners. In this pathetic conflict which achieved nothing and did nothing but have a bunch of sandniggers and the rest of the world mad at us theres only two options... kill them all or pull out.

Posted by: Red October at May 12, 2004 04:21 PM

u live so well in america...isnt that great?
we love our lives too and we have different standards and we are NOT calling out for help so stay where u are...no need to get ur knickers in a knot over the world

Posted by: M at May 12, 2004 10:48 PM

Stop acting like Americans are sitting around on our ocean view balconies in fur coats, drinking wine and contemplating murdering the rest of the world. Most of us didn't want the stupid war and we don't think our lives are the only ones worth living. We cringe when here about brutality and murder, we don't laugh and say, "good job America". Besides, the Iraqis aren't innocent either. And to you guys from the UK, don't forget, the original "Americans" were all from Europe, your people.

Posted by: erica at May 14, 2004 06:13 PM

I would like to say i am from the USA and i believe this whole war is a complete waste of time and that it was completely inhumane to do that to someone.This reminds me of a book called Clay Marble that relived the Cambodian war and its right the people hwo live there are caught up in the middle of it and its wrong when elcetion come up i will ot vote for Bush in face if it were my way Bush would have left long ago. I am not at all happy with the way this goverment is being ran.Thanks for listening.

Posted by: Sara at May 15, 2004 04:16 PM

Ok, b*tches, one, i think this war was dumb, but someone had to do it, and of course, us, the world leader, is the one to handle it...saddam would have eventually got out of control and everyone f*ckin knows this, we just got the one-up on his sandn*gger ass...and as for those b*tches complainin about all the iraqis, well f*ck u too, i would shoot u in ur motherf*ckin head before i shot an iraqi, bcuz u cant even stand up for ur f*ckin gov't that u f*ckin elected...grow some balls and except fate, i cant wait to get out there and bash ne iraqi over the head, bcuz my brother was killed by one of those sand n*ggers and they didnt show him ne f*ckin lee-way..so f*ck all of you talkin sh*t and if you have a problem wit hit, get off ur pompish british a*s's and do something about it...

Posted by: UsaPureBloodB*tch at May 17, 2004 10:53 PM

I think their taking this way to far. I mean what about those Americans that were killed and drug down the streets of Iraq, Or the video of the American man getting his head cut off. Do you see the Iraqis apolagizing for that? NO! The abuse i think isn't really as bad as everyone thinks it is. Personally I think its all Bullshit and the USA has nothing to apolagize for.

Posted by: A. at May 18, 2004 08:29 PM

ok so a minority few american soldiers have been abusing some iragi prisoners.whilst this is wrong do all the iraqi people that condemn the treatment of there men and women condemn the treatment of british and american soldiers? do they forget the pictures of a burn out,barely reqconizable soldier being dragged around the streets and hoisted up like a flag!!! what our soldiers did may be wrong but it is nowhere near the level of evil that the iraqi and rebel soldiers have stooped to,so before u mouth off about are boys take a look at yourselfs first and spare a thought for the family of that poor soldier!!!

Posted by: $a$ at May 19, 2004 08:25 AM

It is sad and disagreeable that there is such discrimination against all people in every country on the face of this earth. I can't believe how so many people hate but not know the individuals they verbally assault. Not everyone agrees with what has happened. Some people seem happy with it in the sickest way. There are people who care about everyone and there are those who are sick in their heads with the love of war. Not all people love this way of thinking.It is absolutely out of control and it will do nothing but breed ignorant hate. My children play with Iraqi children,Egyptian children,Pakastani,palestinian,Israeli,Saudi and it does not matter who they play with because these people have the same in mind that I do. Life and friends and we all dream the same. I don't want any dreams shattered by hate no matter what part of the world it is from. I'm not talking about a imaginary utopian society,It is called common human courtesy. We all came from the same source but many have become death loving,warring rabid animals where even it is acceptable to off women and children needlessly. Maybe the world truely is at it's end because it certainly is not at it's best.

Posted by: L. at May 26, 2004 09:52 PM

whatever happened was wrong.

Posted by: samar at June 2, 2004 11:47 PM

i hate iraq people we should blow them off the map and not risk our mens life we are loseing as many people over there as we did on 9-11 dont put our familys throw that again plz we have lost enough.

Posted by: allyssa b. at September 28, 2004 05:47 PM

I'm Osama bin Ladin from Saudi arabia living somewhere here or there I DON'T KNOW !!

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Our war not with you either Americans or Uropians.

Honestly, we dont like to kill people just to say that but such examples of this abuse pushing us to do so, such abuses happened several times in Somalia , Phalistine, Indonesia and in many Muslim's countries for years & years without Camera,s.

We beleive that Cristians are very near to Muslims, we believe in Jesus as you believe but your governments pushed us to kill the americans and western people as they kill our sons and mothers.

And simply this was the main reasons for 9/11

please put your self in our place, imagin if somebody killed your brother or sister infront of you

Don't you pump him by your heart or head?
Dont you ?

Try to understand why we kill americans please and stop your leaders first from killing us then we will stop automatically.

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