May 06, 2004

Why we're not like "them"
Posted by McQ

An important point is being ignored in all of the bruhaha over Iraqi prisoner abuse.

The point? Our system works:

For a sense of proportion, let's rehearse the timeline here. While some accusations of abuse go back to 2002 in Afghanistan, the incidents at Abu Ghraib that triggered this week's news occurred last autumn. They came to light through the chain of command in Iraq on January 13. An Army criminal probe began a day later. Two days after that, the U.S. Central Command disclosed in a press release that "an investigation has been initiated into reported incidents of detainee abuse at a Coalition Forces detention facility." By March 20, Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt was able to announce in Baghdad that criminal charges had been brought against six soldiers in the probe.

In other words, as the WSJ Opinion Journal points out, it wasn't CBS news which "discovered" this, it was the Army, through its chain of command. And it acted on it immediately.

So while you're treated to the caterwhalling of the Hate America First crowd about how we're "as bad" or "worse" than Saddam, just ask them to cite the last "abuse" investigation Saddam initiated internally.

And while your watching all of this ...

Every accusation against U.S. troops is now getting front-page treatment. Like reporters at a free buffet, Members of Congress are swarming to the TV cameras to declare their outrage and demand someone's head, usually Donald Rumsfeld's. "System of abuse" and "cover-up" are being tossed about without any evidence of either. The goal seems to be less to punish the offenders than to grab one more reason to discredit the Iraq war.

... remember that the institution in which the abuses took place discovered them, initiated an investigation of them and is holding the perpetrators accountable for their actions.

That is not the action of an institution which has systemic problems. Its the action of an institution which can recognize wrong in its own ranks and has the leadership which will do the right thing.

And despite the despicable acts committed, the swift reaction of the Army shows a strength of institutional character that is being overlooked in the heated rhetoric which condemns "the system".

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In other words, as the WSJ Opinion Journal points out, it wasn't CBS news which "discovered" this, it was the Army, through its chain of command. And it acted on it immediately.

Patently false.

Actually, various human rights groups had cited various US prisons in Iraq for well over a year. The Pentagon ignored it.

Further, the Miller and Taguba reports have been available at DoD since the beginning of the year. Yet, the Pentagon took no action.

In fact, as of 3 days ago--neither Junior, nor SecDef, nor the Chairman of the JCS had read either report.

Contractors cited in the report remain on the job as we speak despite Taguba's recommendations.


Posted by: Jadegold at May 6, 2004 11:34 AM

Patently false

OK, what part of this statement is "patently false".

"...it wasn't CBS news which "discovered" this, it was the Army, through its chain of command."

Posted by: McQ at May 6, 2004 11:39 AM

It's all patently false, McQ. For the 'system' to have 'worked'--a problem is rapidly identified and steps are taken to resolve it.

In this case, the Pentagon had both internal and external reports detailing abuse and irregularities. They did nothing until the media started showing the pictures; then there was a flurry of activity.

Investigations are pretty meaningless unless they're acted upon.

There were reports of problems going back at least 18 months. Yet, steps are only beginning to be taken.

At some point, McQ, you'll have to realize these abuses are being done in your name. You either have to step up and demand accountability or you can pretend it's not all that bad.

Posted by: Jadegold at May 6, 2004 12:37 PM

Bzzz ... wrong answer Jade:

One more time. What is patently false with this statement:

"...it wasn't CBS news which "discovered" this, it was the Army, through its chain of command."

Posted by: McQ at May 6, 2004 12:58 PM

Jadegold,
Reports going back 18 months? Have we had prisons in Iraq that long? Last I checked we've only been in Iraq for what 14 months? Just asking.

Posted by: Leon at May 6, 2004 07:22 PM