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I have either learned something or caught an error. I thought dividend yield was annualized. Therefore, I believe that if the dividend yield for Philip Morris is 7.3%, I would get $7.30 / 4 ( or $1.825 ) each quarter. Rick Posted by: Rick Caird at May 31, 2004 05:43 AM |
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Sorry about that. The only copy of the manuscript I have that is in a word document, i.e., a format I can cut and paste from, is the initial draft. All the revisions from the publisher are in PDF format with the pages saved as images instead of text. So, there are some differences between the draft manuscript and the published version. Sorry. Posted by: Dale Franks at May 31, 2004 02:45 PM |
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Congratulations on your book! Posted by: Mark at June 1, 2004 09:54 PM |
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Again, congrats. It should be pointed out, however, that Microsoft does pay a dividend: $.16, for about a .6% yield, which was originally declared in '03. Yeah, it's not much but I'm sure you would want to be accurate. Posted by: kelly at June 4, 2004 03:34 PM |
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> Stocks also pay earnings. Earnings are payments to the shareholders of the profits the company has made, after subtracting taxes and dividend payments. Every quarter, companies figure out how much money they’ve made in profits for the last three months, and they divide the money equally among the shares. The above suggests that earnings are paid to shareholders, which is false. And, earnings does not exclude dividends. Posted by: Andy Freeman at June 5, 2004 08:31 AM |
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Aren't dividends paid out of corporate earnings, and those earnings not paid out as dividends are recorded as "Retained Earnings" and kept by the company for future cash needs? Posted by: Tim Higgins at June 5, 2004 01:21 PM |
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> Aren't dividends paid out of corporate earnings Dividends are paid out of cash that the corporation has. Corps can, and have, borrowed money and sold stock to get the cash to pay dividends. Note also that the word "earnings" has multiple definitions. Some of them don't correspond to cash from operations after actual expenses. Posted by: Andy Freeman at June 6, 2004 01:56 AM |
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I don't hold out too much hope for this book... "Earnings" are the profits of the business. "Retained earnings" are what, of this year's profits, the business keeps after paying out any dividend - retained earnings can be negative after dividend payments due to use of profits from previous years. "Dividends" are only like interest for the purposes of analogy - as a company isn't committed to a dividend yield (and pressure to maintain it from investors has slackened recently), it's misleading to suggest Philip Morris "yields" 7.3% without being clear this can be cut. "Price appreciation", at least in theory, ought to be related to future expectations of returns to investors. I.e. is related to the future expected dividends or buy-backs, and this should be made clear. After all, the reason Microsoft shares have soared is that they're vastly profitable as a company and have a huge cash pile out of which they could pay diidends. "Earnings per share" - This is what's being discussed here - "Every quarter, companies figure out how much money they’ve made in profits for the last three months, and they divide the money equally among the shares. ", but that's a SERIOUS misconception about a standard listed company. The EPS is calcuated in a slightly esoteric way, but basically is - earnings (before dividends) for the period, over the number of shares outstanding + outstanding options. This indicates the potential dividend payable, but can bear no relation to the dividend paid in the period (or ever, in the case of Microsoft). Hopefully simple enough - I certainly know the above misses a lot out. But I'm sure an intended reader of the book would know more than when they started Posted by: The Philosophical Cowboy at June 6, 2004 05:15 AM |
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