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Somehow I just don't think 60 Minutes will be asking Barnes about those contributions. WOW -- Barnes must really, really like Kerry because I feel sure there are no strings attached. However, the NYT or WaPo might be interested. Especially, Richard Cohen or Paul Krugman. LOL Posted by: Kathy at September 4, 2004 06:20 PM |
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There is a well researched 2-part article exposing Ben Barnes past at The Blogspirator. The Dirt on Ben Barnes Claims about Bush and the Air National Guard Posted by: VRWC Jedi at September 4, 2004 06:34 PM |
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Oops, the Ben Barnes article at Blogspirator is here: http://blogspirator.blogspot.com/2004/08/exclusive-dirt-on-ben-barnes-claims.html Your HTML link posting thingy is broken, dude! Posted by: VRWC Jedi at September 4, 2004 06:37 PM |
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Just checked the links ... they're all working. Posted by: McQ at September 4, 2004 06:41 PM |
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Hmmm... McQ seems your traffic to the CapitalEye site has caused a problem. This is what I just received: 503 Service Unavailable -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Marc at September 4, 2004 06:56 PM |
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"60 Minutes" journalistic integrity? Posted by: James Henry at September 4, 2004 07:03 PM |
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Marc: Probably has more to do with the Captain's Quarters link than ours. Looks like it got overwhelmed. Take a look at CQ. He's copied the top three contributors in his story. Posted by: McQ at September 4, 2004 07:05 PM |
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Michael Dobbs' WaPo article about this press-stopping new story is self-fisking, but I've blogged about it here, and some of my commenters have had interesting takes. (Sorry to link-whore, McQ, but I figured it's better than a long cut and paste.) I'm actually old enough to remember Ben Barnes' implosion here Texas in the early 1970s he was the fair-haired boy, the proto-Bill Clinton of Texas politics. Crooked, though, and got caught; there's a good reason he hasn't been in the public eye in Texas for the last 30 years. Dobbs' article apart being a waste of his time when he has other things he ought to be writing about IMHO makes clear that there's nothing new here. This is purely recycled stuff from 1999 that's being trotted out to try to put the spotlight back on Dubya instead of on SwiftVets vs. Kerry. Posted by: Beldar at September 4, 2004 08:01 PM |
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That's ok. I understand the Guardian in the UK is printing a story that Bush - get ready to gasp- used to be a drunk! Oh yeah, Susan Estritch commands, and the media vassals dance. I'm going to the Swiftboat site now to contribute. Posted by: shark at September 4, 2004 08:24 PM |
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I am not sure what to make of this? It appears to be a real book. Apparently the book will describe George Sr as a child molestor and GWB as a closet homosexual. So the media is trying their best. If AQ was only as capable as the MSM, then America would be a wahabi state in the caliphate. I see that the book will be published in Briatian. With Britain's libel laws, I hope they take her to the cleaners. Posted by: capt joe at September 4, 2004 08:42 PM |
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It is. Kitty Kelly writes badly researched and referenced books about celebrities. They're thinly disguised hit pieces. Just another in a long line of Bush bashing books. The market is slightly saturated in that genre ... just ask Maureen Dowd. Posted by: McQ at September 4, 2004 08:48 PM |
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Saturated? There's an understatement. Posted by: looker at September 4, 2004 08:58 PM |
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I was taking Texas History in junior high when Sharpstown broke. While the Republicans were catching it on a national level with Watergate, the Texas Democrats were catching it at the state level over Sharpstown. That and local corruption by county judge candidates have helped to turn the old home town into a fairly Republican area (Ron Paul is their congressman). Gus Mutscher (sp?) was the Speaker of the Texas House, and he was in deeper doo-doo than Barnes, but Barnes-baby ain't pure as the driven snow himself. Posted by: David R. Block at September 4, 2004 09:26 PM |
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Yeah, more recently it was GTECH and the TX state lottery. However from what I see Barnes keeps getting caught associating with people with their hands in the till, but his hand never gets caught. Make of that what you will. Again though, all this stuff is old news. Every time they trot this stuff out I'm amazed, and you know, on reflection, I don't know WHY I'm amazed. It's SOP for them. They really ARE banking on the swing voters being that stupid. Posted by: looker at September 4, 2004 10:05 PM |
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And what's the recorded info on Jake Johnson, a key piece in the story since he's related that the conveniently now dead Gen Rose told him he got Bush accepted in the Guard. The "it has been reporteds" and "my wife's uncle's brother-in-law has said"'s I find in web references on the entire story are a bit credibility straining. There's no fact here, it's all unsubstantiated and unverifiable allegation, like Granny's recent recollection of Georgies time in Alabama. Posted by: looker at September 4, 2004 10:42 PM |
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"Saturated? There's an understatement." Just remember, looker: the ones you see are there because they haven't sold! Saw it in June when looking for a particular Reagan book, and all I found were Bushhitler tomes in great stacks. Grabbed a manager and testily asked him why there weren't any Reagan books. He said, "We can't keep them in stock. I wish they'd send us Reagan books instead of all this "Bush sux" stuff which we can't GIVE away." heh. The remainder bin. Posted by: Jumbo at September 4, 2004 11:13 PM |
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For what it's worth, the "official" 60 Minutes web site does not list the Barnes interview in its "Up Next" section for the 9/5/04 broadcast. Doesn't mean it won't air, of course, but it's not on the official schedule. If you haven't done this already, McQ, please consider calling or e-mailing 60 Minutes with your research on Barnes. At least then they can't claim they didn't know. Posted by: Ellis Wyatt at September 5, 2004 12:17 AM |
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Jumbo - I do admit to a certain amount of gloating on one thing - a LOT of those books were marked at the "everyone wants this book!" God how I love repeating that title. Posted by: looker at September 5, 2004 08:03 AM |
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Who cares about Barnes? We all knew in 2000 that GWB was a screwup before age 40 and he was voted into office anyway. Plus, GWB has never touted his National Guard service as a reason to qualify him for president. And if anyone asks him about Barnes during this election cycle, he is likely to deflect the question and point to his accomplishments fighting the war on terror, which are the only qualifications that matter. As for 60 minutes, I don't watch it anymore. Posted by: pdq332 at September 5, 2004 09:13 AM |
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Professor Bainbridge soes a great job of skewering the myth that Dems are fighting fair. Posted by: capt joe at September 5, 2004 12:36 PM |
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"As for 60 Minutes, I don't watch it anymore." Sometimes I do, but only to look for clues that might help me determine whether CBS uses the same embalming techniques on Mike Wallace that the Soviets used on Lenin. Posted by: Jumbo at September 5, 2004 02:39 PM |
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The Barnes story, even if absolutely true rates a big fat "so what?" to anyone with a functioning brain. Ever look for a job? Getting hired is always easier if you have a friend that knows someone in the company. Posted by: Peter at September 5, 2004 02:54 PM |
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Now, don't diss on Lenin - a Russian friend of mine used to joke the lines were long at the tomb because it's the only thing they never ran out of. Posted by: looker at September 5, 2004 03:41 PM |
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Mmmmm, now what was it, other than the death of the only other witness to this supposed request, that pricked poor Mr. Barnes' battered conscience? Posted by: Jumbo at September 5, 2004 10:31 PM |
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Oh, probably his sudden desire to see the triumph of truth (or whatever version of reality would be most convenient for John Kerry at this point it time...want to borrow his hat?, he got it in Cambodia). Posted by: looker at September 6, 2004 08:37 AM |
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McQ: Here's some more links on the availability of pilot slots in the TANG: *Jon's old entry on the Dallas Morning News article, with links to the Daily Howler. *A Bill Hobbs post with more links. Of course, I suspect most of the public already thinks (in the absence of evidence) that Bush's dad pulled strings for him, so new charges that try to prove that are unlikely to make a dent. Posted by: Crank at September 7, 2004 05:05 PM |
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Questions about SBVT arose from its being a 527 org and such an organization’s coordination with a candidate (GWB) being a violation of federal law. The resignation of a senior Bush staff member and another lesser campaign operative for participation in the SBVT activities seems to be evidence of such unlawful coordination. While the contributions from Ben Barnes are startling, to say the least, they were entirely legal and were reported early on by Kerry himself, as is required by law. I am continually astonished at the hard 180 on military service by a candidate (or the lack thereof) being executed by those who freely hurled insults at Bill Clinton for going to England on a Fulbright Scholarship during the Vietnam War. In their tight turn, they now expect others to ignore the fact that GWB has a “spotty” record of service during the same period. After all, wherever he was (And, there are some REAL questions about that, and his recent forthrightness regarding where he was and what he was doing.), it is clear that GWB was never in Vietnam. Posted by: Jim Bishop at September 9, 2004 02:07 AM |
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