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To me the funniest aspects of this topic are (in no particular order): 1. Al Gore filed the first lawsuit. 2. If the case had not reached the Supreme Court (or if they had declined to hear it), it would almost certainly have gone to the Florida legislature, which is responsible for certifying the electors. The legislature was controlled by the Republicans. 3. Nader Nader Nader. 4. In light of the newly-discovered "snowbird scandal" (seniors illegally voting in both Florida and New York), the claims of "Granny was confused and voted for Buchanan" ring very hollow. Posted by: KipEsquire at September 17, 2004 02:48 PM |
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So does this mean the election was false, but accurate? Posted by: W at September 17, 2004 03:25 PM |
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The 2000 election was stolen. It was stolen from the Democrats by forcing them to obey the rules. Read this from a bastion of liberal bias. I guess it slipped through because Jacoby has done some investigation into the subject himself. He even quotes from Fund's book. http://tinyurl.com/5848r How to steal an election "One simple fix -- requiring every voter to show ID when registering and voting -- would seem to be a no-brainer." "Yet, incredibly, powerful political interests have long fought to block an ID requirement. The NAACP and La Raza liken it to the poll tax that Southern states once used to keep blacks from voting. A Democratic Party official says that "ballot security" and "preventing voter fraud" are simply code for voter suppression. That willingness to play the race card is not merely dishonorable; it is undemocratic. For as Fund notes, "when voters are disenfranchised by the counting of improperly cast ballots, their civil rights are violated just as surely as if they were prevented from voting." Well said! Posted by: Doug at September 17, 2004 06:24 PM |
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Leftists skip the inconvenient facts. Gore conceded the election to Bush Gore campaign decides maybe they can win it on a challenge Gore unconcedes the election Gore filed a lawsuit to overturn the election The Florida Supreme Court decided to ignore the law and agrees with Gore The US supreme Court said you can't do that after the fact. Florida certifies Bush as the winner. Only very confused angry people can actually believe that Bush stole the election or that the SCOTUS gave it to him. Posted by: EddieP at September 18, 2004 10:31 AM |
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McQ posts a quote: "... every single recount of the votes in Florida determined that George W. Bush had won..." Not according to this Tallahassee (Florida) newspaper's 2002 article, "Clearing up the election that won't die": Question: Who actually received the most votes in Florida's 2000 presidential election?"The excerpts are from James Fund's new book Stealing Elections" Actually, it's John Fund, not the most objective of sources — but I can understand your not wanting to give his right name. One of the prime movers of the [Wall Street] Journal's anti-Clinton obsession was John Fund, who spent a great deal of time meeting with members of the Arkansas Project and some of the more notorious figures in the Paula Jones lawsuit and "Get-Clinton" conspiracy. Fund acted as kind of a father figure to many of them, helping to guide their strategy in secret while simultaneously writing editorials in the Journal accusing Clinton of all manner of unproven malfeasance. ... (Irony of ironies, the Rush Limbaugh ghostwriter is also cited in David Brock's book, among other places, as a likely source for Matt Drudge's false and malicious claim that Sidney Blumenthal was a wife-beater....)KipEsquire writes: "Al Gore filed the first lawsuit." If he had, the case would have been "Gore v. Bush", instead of (as it was) "Bush v. Gore". The plaintiff's name goes first. Saturday, Nov. 11 — The Bush team, led by former secretary of state James Baker, files suit in federal court to block Gore's request for a hand recount. Posted by: Raven at September 19, 2004 02:55 AM |
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Lest it be incorrectly inferred from the previous comment that the University of Chicago study concluded that Gore won (http://slate.msn.com/?id=2058638): "But even if you assume that all ballots cast were legal and nobody was unjustly turned away from the polls and that the 6 million plus Florida ballots that weren't contested were cast accurately, the Florida winner is still unknowable. This wisdom comes from Kirk Wolter of the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago, the point person in assembling the data for the project, who is quoted by the Tribune and the AP (and also, only deeper, in stories by the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, and the Los Angeles Times). The consortium diligently collected 175,010 overvotes and undervotes, but it concedes that it can't be sure if it collected every overvote and undervote. If the margin of victory is just a couple of hundred votes, as it was in nearly all the media recounts, the contest as (sic) "too close to call," Wolter says, because the variability of the vote counts—the possible error—would be larger than the margin of victory. "One could never know from this study alone who won the election," he told the Tribune and other publications." Posted by: crosspol at September 19, 2004 09:06 PM |
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